


Susanne: They made a portrait out of my face with the whole thing. I remember there was a big, gigantic, huge Giorgio Armani party, like thousands of people, the walls were covered in roses! Susanne-And we traveled a lot, we went all over the world. I called Susanne and she said, “Go to Copa, put on the tits and the heels, come and join me.” And I went as Justine and that was the beginning of my drag, and Susanne pulled me into her world. I used to go to the Copacabana and I remember saying, I need a job, I need something. Joey: That was a character, that’s when I started doing drag because-I did drag for the first time and Susanne saw me at Wigstock and she was like, “Joey, I need you to come.” I was like, “I don’t do drag.” Somehow my career was winnowing down. He had this show where he would eat garlic and then a marshmallow, pull up his ass and fart and light the fart and then he toasted the marshmallow. Susanne: Farting and toasting marshmallows, that’s my biggest memory of Joey, when he used to do that. Joey: Eating garlic and having an egg with shit on it, farting and. Susanne: Right up your alley, eating garlic and. Joey: She was a tower, she could not move, and I looked more like an alien because of Klaus, and I was looking at her and she’s like, “Is he for real,” and then my friend says, “That’s Susanne.” But then we got in the car and turned on the car and she says, “Joey, I went to the party with that vibrating egg, and I stuck it up this guy’s ass and I pulled it out and there was shit on it, and I said, “Whose dirty ass does this belong to?” And I looked at Susanne and I was like, I’m in love with her, I thought, I’m going to have a lot of fun. Susanne: I think I was wearing a chemise from the BodyMap and I couldn’t move, it was similar to that Rick Owens dress in the photo.

And I go, “Nice to meet you,” and I looked like an alien because I was doing drag. I’m with Kenny Scharf, Keith Haring, Jean-Michel, Ann Magnuson and the whole group, and one day we all went out, my friend said, “I want you to meet my friend Susanne,” she says, “you’re gonna love her, I think she’s Swiss or something or English, I’m not quite sure.” All of a sudden I remember getting out and seeing this tall, statuesque woman with a white turban and no eyebrows and very stiff, and Susanne said “Hullo”. Joey: I sold t-shirts but I was working, I was working with Klaus and I had just done Saturday Night Live with David Bowie so all of a sudden we’re part of the art world. Susanne: Fiorucci! I was having an affair with Mr. Susanne, were you doing your store, and Joey, were you at Fiorucci? Nick: I would love to go back to when you first met.
